291: Depression With Tani Morgan

291: Depression With Tani Morgan

Welcome to the Joyful Mom Podcast. I'm your host, Megan Hilluka. I'm going to introduce our very special guest today, Tani Morgan. Tani is a Certified Rapid-Resolution Therapy Specialist. She assists people in clearing painful emotions, negative thoughts, stuckness, and undesired behavior. As a mother of two who has struggled with depression and lack of direction and who thought she had to sacrifice her wants, needs, and dreams to be a good woman,

She knows what it's like to feel lost, stuck, and desiring something better through her transformation and years of guiding women to move from stuck to unstoppable. Nothing has worked as effectively as rapid-resolution therapy. Tani has trained intensively with Dr. John Connolly and has become the second RRT facilitator in Alberta and the first certified RRT specialist in Canada. She is a yoga teacher and studio owner and she holds a bachelor of commerce. She has trained in empowerment, coaching, meditation, and Reiki. She continues to train even now with Dr. Connolly to enhance her skills even further. 

So, Tani, welcome to the podcast. I'm so excited to have another RRT facilitator or specialist on this podcast. I'm excited to have you here.

I'm very excited to be here. Yes. So, I think we kind of started our RRT journey at a similar timeframe. I think you started just a little bit before me, though you have exponentially moved through the training process compared to me. I'm so close to getting to a specialist level, but I still have some of the mastery hours to finish, which take a while for me.

I'm excited to have you here. I've seen you talk about it; obviously, I've seen you in the RRT community and on calls, but you have also talked about navigating depression. You had mentioned your journey with depression and I would love to have you share as much as you're willing to talk about depression and healing from it. 

I'm pretty open with most things. So I'm getting ready for a story. You know I started experiencing some, I would say anxiety. I was struggling to sleep at night after a breakup. And I was, I want to say like 23-ish, and what happened was I moved and went to a new doctor to refill a prescription of Ativan, which is this little kind of like a relaxing drug that you just tuck under your tongue, and I would take half a, I think it's like a milligram is a pill, and then I take half of that or a whole one at night a couple of times a month.

Right, every second or so. I went to refill it, and the doctor was like, Why don't we try a different way of managing your anxiety? And prescribed an antidepressant. And now, looking back, I think that probably had a huge part to do with how I was feeling. Going forward. And I moved again.

So I was recently out of university and I was moving around working for one of the top five banks in Canada, basically moving wherever they sent me. While I worked at the bank as well.  This is what I wanted; you know, I have a Bachelor of Commerce, I went to school, and this is the direction I was moving in, but I had to treat people differently, depending on how much money they had, and I had a boss that was constantly telling me, don't, stop worrying about everyone else; nobody else is going to worry about you; you have to worry about yourself; stop worrying about everyone else; and, you know, kind of kiboshing any sort of community feel or whatnot, and what I started experiencing was just feeling low. I have had many thoughts about how much I hate myself.

I hate my life. I suck; this sucks. I wanted to die and I would go and talk to a doctor and they'd up my antidepressant meds, which seemed to work for a little while and then all of a sudden wouldn't be working again, and eventually, I was on the highest dose of two different antidepressants. And I was at work.

I still wasn't feeling, you know, particularly happy. One day, someone brought me a paper from a fax machine and said, Way back then, when there were fax machines, but I'm aging myself a little bit. He brought me this piece of paper and said, Where does this go? Which is something that I would have done all day long, you know, all the time.

Like, Oh, that goes there. That goes there. And as I looked at this piece of paper, I could see the letters on it. I knew there were words there. My mind couldn't read it. It was just blank; I could see the letters, but I had no idea even to tell the person what department this needed to go to. 

And so I just said, I'm sorry, you have to take it to someone else. And I first went into the bathroom and burst into tears because that was scary. Like, basically, the mind had shut down under the immense emotions. I was stressed, both mentally and emotionally. And so from that point, I was luckily lucky that my employer had an employee helpline.

So I called that helpline because I couldn't stop crying. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I have to go back to work. I don't know why I'm crying. And that was kind of me asking for help besides what I was getting from the doctor, which was simply a pharmaceutical. There was no sort of counseling. And she was great and she set me up with group depression therapy.

Let me try a depression therapy group program. What I learned there was, one, I'm not my thoughts, and I have some sort of control over what I think, which was mind-blowing at that, um, period. It was like, What do you mean I can choose what to think about? I just did; that wasn't even anything.

I also learned that the food that I was putting into my body affected how I felt emotionally. Also, I grew up eating healthy with my parents; you know, they always grew a big organic garden every summer, and they fed us a lot of vegetables, you know what I mean, a lot of whole wheat if we're eating bread or anything, you know what I mean, like it was pretty, pretty healthy stuff, not a lot of junk or sugar, but when I moved out on my own, you know, I ate a lot of Itchy Man and Kraft Dinner and, you know, drive-thru.

Not realizing that the food that I put into my body was going to affect how I was feeling. So, I learned about that. and I learned that exercise also increases your happiness level. I started walking around the block. That's it—just walk around the block. I started buying packaged, prepackaged, ready-to-eat salads or cut-up vegetables to bring in more vegetables.

But the main thing that I did with my mind was to start to watch my thoughts. And notice. Where I was. I'm thinking, I suck, my life sucks, and I want to die. And, what I found was that, often on my way to work and back, I'd be driving and I had this little Volkswagen convertible, and I would constantly be thinking about just turning into the oncoming traffic when there was a big semi coming.

I figured he'd be fine and my little car would crash. You know, it was an accident. We'd all be dead. I'd be dead. Ease this suffering that I'm going through. And that's what I caught myself thinking. And so then, when I learned in the group therapy program that I could choose a different thought, I would say stop.

I would catch the negative thought, and I would say stop. I would put my hand up and say, Stop. And for about a second, I'd be like, Okay, what am I going to think about instead?

I think about the beach. Think about the beach. Yeah, I like the beach. And then, literally, three seconds later, I hated my life. Oh, stop. Wait, wait, wait. Think about the beach. Think about the beach. And so, you know, in the beginning, there was maybe a second pause, and as I continued to practice, there'd be a three-second pause, and as I continued to practice, I got better and better at guiding my mind away from the negative thoughts to more positive thoughts or that brought more joy into my life. 

So, that was a huge turning point for me, and then I decided that I wanted to get off the antidepressants. And, well, I don't necessarily recommend this. I'm not recommending this. I am not a doctor. I went much faster than the doctors recommended. But I weaned myself off those quite quickly. And then I realized that a lot of the symptoms I was experiencing were actually resulting from those antidepressants.

I would wake up in the middle of the morning, and my whole side of the bed would be drenched.  My body was trying to get these chemicals out of me. I didn't know any better. I was just doing what the doctor told me. Right? And I'm not against antidepressants or pharmaceuticals, but what I'm not really for is people being on them for the rest of their lives.

That was the message that I was getting from my doctor when I'm like, I've been on it a year. I really want to get off. He's like, people are on these for their whole lives. And I was like, what? No, no. I do think they're useful for a short period of time to boost your energy to have some clarity to then go and do the other things that can clear up.

That's kind of how I'm looking at it. And so that was many years ago now. I'm just trying to think about probably 20 years ago, maybe longer. A little over 20 years ago now. Since then, I've been focused on creating a life that I enjoy. You know, and now I have a great life. 

I'm helping all sorts of people clear their mental and emotional struggles. I totally agree with RRT, which is pretty amazing. I have a few things I want to point out or like to talk about. This actually happens a lot with a lot of people that I work with or people who I talk with who are interested in working with me because they're like, you know, I am on this medication.

It helps manage it a little bit, but I'm still anxious. I'm still depressed. I'm still so glad the medication helps, but it's not the answer because it doesn't take away the issue. Like, it's still like, it's a way to feel a little bit better. And maybe get to a place where you can be stable, you know, like where you can function.

But every single person I've ever talked to still deals with the symptoms that they're having and why they're on it in the first place. I like how you said it's helpful, maybe for a short time, but I also am not on the bandwagon of life. It's for life, especially when you know about RRT and how amazing it works.

And there's this tool that can help you. Right. So I'm curious. I want to thank you too for sharing your story, because what are your thoughts for someone who causes depression? It can be so hard to even do something different. Right. It can be hard. Like, what's the point? Why bother?

Why would I even? You know, nothing's going to work. Nothing's going to help. Why would I even try? I don't have the energy to try those kinds of things. What does somebody do even to start to shift that? experience because when you're in the midst of it, it's really dark and really heavy. And how do you even make a change?

Right? Yeah. For me, it felt like a deep, dark hole. I'm trying to climb out of it. And I think what I would say now is: Find people who have stories like mine, like people who have overcome and be inspired by them to see that it is possible. I don't consider myself to be living with depression, that I have depression, or that I'm a depressed person at all.

That's just over. That's not part of my life anymore. Yeah.  Right? And so, I think, look for those stories. I know multiple people who were in a state that they would call depression and they looked at their lives and started kind of checking in with different aspects of their lives and making changes, but usually I think it starts from this idea that, Oh my gosh.

I could heal from this. It is possible to move through this and not live with it anymore. Yeah. And so I think listening, watching, and reading stories about them starts to get the mind thinking in a different way that, oh my gosh, it could be possible. So I think that would probably be the first step.

And then the second thing would be knowing that. Happiness is not something that just finds you. It's more something you can cause and create, and there are specific behaviors and actions that one can take that increase a happiness baseline. Can you give us some examples of that? Yeah, absolutely. So acts of kindness—random acts of kindness, going out and doing something kind for someone else—raise their happiness level.

And if anyone happens to witness it, it also raises theirs. Sometimes when I'm angry with someone, or I'm annoyed with someone, or I'm just feeling low, this happened the other day. I can't remember exactly what was going on, but I was feeling grouchy. Oh, and then I think I had a client call. 

And I was like, okay, so I kind of pumped myself up the best I could before the client call. But it was serving someone else that naturally lifted me out of that feeling that I was in at the time. So that would be one. Um, gratitude. or little notes of appreciation to people, sending other people little notes of appreciation. 

You know, I think gratitude is an interesting thing because sometimes people are like, Okay, well, I have to find something to be grateful for. Yeah, it's not going to work so well. But if you can try to think of just one thing in your life that you know, in your day, let's say one thing in your day that brought a little bit of joy, happiness, or lightness into it, and look at that and appreciate it. 

So after what I would say was technically healing from the depression, there were other times in my life when I didn't feel completely happy. Yeah. And there was a point where I had. Kind of done all the things would, you know, from the fairy tale formula, as I like to call it, which is, we're told, you know, go to school, finish school, get a good job, find a partner, you know, fall in love,  get married, buy a house, have kids, then you'll live happily ever after. 

So I'd done all these things and then moved into this new house, which felt like my kind of dream home—like we're going to live here forever. And, you know, I still wasn't feeling all that happy. I felt like there was a sense that there might be something more. And I challenged myself; there was this thing going around on social media called a hundred days of happiness.

Again, I'm not 100 days is a big commitment to make like people; if you're in a depression, start with a week; maybe start with, you know, two weeks; work your way up. But I was committed. I was like, I want to learn about happiness. And so I did it for a hundred days, but you could do it for 30 or two weeks to see a difference. 

But what we did every day was just a hundred days. Notice one thing in our day that made us happy, posted on social media. And you don't have to post this on social media. You could just write it in a journal. You could be someone; however, that's what I did. And by the end of the hat, that's a hundred days.

happy, so I was also learning a little bit about manifestation at that time. But so I would notice what made me happy and then I'd bring a little gratitude into it. And at the end of the challenge, I was starting to notice that, you know, I'd see something that made me happy. I'd post it. And then. An hour later, something else made me happy.

And then, an hour later, something else made me happy. The more I focused on what made me happy in my life, the more things came into my life that made me happy. Yeah. It was an interesting experiment. Um, so, yeah. Random acts of kindness. You know, up level, gratitude, up level. There's more exercise—moving your body. 

Getting out into nature has a significant impact on one's mental and emotional state. See if you can go near water, a river, a lake, or the ocean. That's what's coming to mind right now. There are a couple more that I can think of. There's a great book called The Happiness Advantage by Sean Aker, and that is where I learned a lot about it.

There are some pretty powerful things about the mind. So somebody could look there for more information and maybe as we chat, more things will come back. Yeah. Well, I love that. And even the idea of what you focus on expands, you know, if you focus on where are all the problems in your life, what's going wrong, what's the whatever, but it's bringing appreciation.

And this is something we've learned in RRT too: bringing appreciation to the things that you notice in those things that are different, the good things, because it's like suddenly mine automatically starts noticing those more and I think of it almost like if you think of it like a flock of birds that are coming, you know, there's, you could have a flock of birds towards things that are problems, or you can have a flock of birds that are good things.

And the more things that are good, the more birds that come that are good; it can be on either end of the spectrum. If we're paying attention to all the problems and the negative things, and that's what it's like, we all have problems. We all have things in our lives that aren't going well. We all have things that are not good.

You're, you know, that painful, but when we bring our focus on the other things, not totally ignoring that, but bringing our focus more here, that increases, which I agree with. So now you say you've worked as a coach for about eight years. And I'm curious how you came to know RRT to, um, experience it and then to be a specialist now. 

Well, I might share a little bit, even how I got to become a coach, if that's okay. Yeah, that's fine. I think it ties right in. Um, so, and in this was kind of around the same, was it a little bit after I'd done this happiness challenge, but there was still, I was getting up in the morning and not feeling fulfilled, like kind of drained.

And I was running my own business—a totally different kind of business. I was looking after children, like childcare in my home. I started tapping into my intuition because I had this calling, this pull—like, you know, I want to do something more. But I didn't know what that meant.

And so I kind of started listening to my intuition, which, like, I'd get these little things like more, you know what I mean? I kind of tune into a couple of different things and senses, like, Oh, what makes me happy? Oh, well, you know, I did this yoga challenge last month and that felt good in my body.

And I drive home every day, feeling happy from that, you know? And I thought I also had always wanted to be a bit of a counselor, you know like I've always. I thought that, you know, people, I love giving advice and helping people. So that felt like it might be a good thing, but I was like, but being a counselor, I got to go back to school for four, four, or five years.

I'm not sure if I'm up for that. So let's go the yoga teacher route. So I became a yoga teacher and when I was done, and that was a huge thing as a mom with two little kids, um, making that decision to leave them every second weekend when I hadn't ever left them very much, you know, um, but I did that and then.

When it was over, I was very happy, and I'm going to make a yoga business out of it. So I started, and I had a business degree, but at that point, the Internet was still called the World Wide Web. You know, we're just learning about it and now at this point, I'm like, I've got to figure out an online business, like online marketing.

So I started doing some googling. And that's how I came across the world of coaching. And I was just so excited to find it because I thought it was like counseling, but it didn't require four years. I was already using mindfulness, meditation, and things like that. So I thought, Okay, this sounds like a great plan.

And, of course, I had the thoughts that so many of us entrepreneurs have but what about me? I do anything. Who will listen to me? Who will care? And before I even told anyone about it, I had somebody reach out to me and say, Hey, can you help me with my business? And I was like, That's amazing. 

I kind of looked up at the universe and was like, Okay, I get the message. Okay. I'll go ahead and do this then. And so then I hired my first coach, who, right shortly after that, I'm going to do what I need to learn how to do it. Fast forward a little bit through the last eight years.

I was just on Instagram and a coach that I'd worked with a couple of years ago had posted something about, I think, RRT being the new human design of the coaching world. And I was like, What's that? I never heard of it. So I followed rapid resolution therapy on their Instagram page.

And I think they put out a post that said. What if you don't have to feel it to heal? Which is like, what? Especially coming from a coaching perspective, a mindfulness perspective, or the body keeping the score, trauma, all of that. Yes. Well, I had been trained in empowerment coaching, and there is still value there, I think, but a lot of that was all around.

You have to feel it to heal it. Interestingly enough, in that community, I noticed that these women would come in and do this course with the leader, the coach. But then they come back the next year, and the next year, and the next year, like it didn't really feel like they were getting better.

And if they were, it wasn't very quick. But at that point, it was the fastest thing—the best thing—that I knew how to get through. I always had the intention to get a shift transformation as quickly as possible, which I now know is very valuable. At the time, I didn't know. Back to the story, I was like, Oh, what do you mean you don't have to feel it to heal it? 

And so I'm like, that really piqued my attention and so then I signed up for one of Dr. John's Solutions free Monday night sessions and there I watched him transform people. Mm hmm. 15 minutes, half an hour, you know, 15 minutes, half an hour he did take at that point he was taking a little bit longer with some people and I got a little deeper dive into like the whole process, but I just was amazed.

Yeah. And here's the funny thing: I asked him about something and the answer he gave me didn't shift it for me. But I had seen so many other people get shifted at that moment that I was like, I'm in, I want to do this, go for it. And, you know, that moment he gave me like five seconds of his time—you know, he has shifted things for me since then.

But I just think that's a funny thing that I was like, he said something, and I was like, I tried it for a little bit and it didn't work, you know what I mean? But so many other things that I've seen and, at that moment, saw and then have seen since I'm just totally like, it's amazing. It's the best thing out there.

I know he just mentioned how some sessions could go. Many, many hours long and solutions. He doesn't have a very long time with people to work with them. So it's like a very small section of what can happen when you spend time with somebody in an actual session. 

I am curious about you because I had the same. Like what? You don't like how trauma can be healed quickly. Anxiety can be shut off. Like what in the world, I've been in the grief space, and kind of like you have to feel all your emotions deeply to feel better. And it was almost like I was super fascinated by what I saw; I was like, Well, how can I argue with what I'm seeing?

Because the proof is in the pudding. When you watch it over and over again, it's like, How can I argue with this? But it challenged everything I thought. about emotions. It challenged everything I thought about. You know, in the same way, that's like, yes, you have to do. You have to do tap day.

You have to meditate. You have to do breathwork to regulate your nervous system and calm yourself down. That's why it takes a lot of work, a lot of energy, a lot of effort, and a lot of time. And then I'm like, what? This thing that can just, what are you talking about? This is like what I've been, you know, helping people with. 

And then I'm like, well, if there's a better, faster way, why wouldn't I learn that? Why wouldn't I learn the thing that's faster, better, quicker, easier, lighter, and gets faster results for people? But I have to say it was a challenging, um, maybe transition of thought because it challenged everything I had thought previously.

And so I'm curious for you to know what your experience was like with that. Yeah. It was very similar and there was a time when I felt very unsettled in the sense that I had no idea what was true. in the whole world anymore. It wasn't even just about this. I mean, like, a bunch of COVID stuff had just happened.

And then, yeah, about this. Right. And so I'm just like, like, I was definitely in this place of, like, it felt like shaky ground, like, you know, a mini earthquake of, like, I don't know what is true, you know? And then, exactly as you said, I saw the results happen over and over with him. So I was. I'm in, like, I jumped after that one, you know, that one solution. I signed up for one of his courses the very next day. You know, the same day I was like, I'm in, but there was a period of adjustment where I was like, is he right?

Is he right about everything? Which parts are true? Which parts aren't true? And the most helpful thing he said was, I'm not saying this is true. I'm just saying it's useful to think about. Yeah, and so when I started thinking that way, that kind of took like a weight off my entire shoulders about all sorts of different things in the world, you know, and this is one he wouldn't agree with, but I've been thinking for quite some time that, you know, the universe supports me, that things happen to me for my growth and expansion, even if they're not of my preference, right?

He doesn't; he doesn't like it; that's not the way he doesn't, and RRT does not like to focus on that at all. Yes. Right. Yeah. Right. So, however, that's been useful in my life. Mm hmm. Right. So I'm like, okay, well, I'm going to keep thinking that because I can see how it's been useful in my life. It's been useful in my client's life.

I won't ever tell them it's true. Yeah. But it's something they could try on and see if it works for them. Yeah. Right. And so, we've been able to do that with many things. And, um, yeah, I just definitely went through a transition period where it felt like I was literally on unstable ground and I didn't know what I knew.

It was like, I don't know what I mean, because everything in RRT is the complete opposite of everything I thought before. Let's, for example, deal with trauma. You know, you have to feel it deeply. It takes a lot of work, a lot of effort, and a lot of energy. And then when I watch one session where somebody's lifelong trauma is completely cleared in one session, it's like, What in the world, how did that happen?

And now, as I understand more, it makes more sense to me and from this perspective but I had to go experience it myself. I went and got my own RRT session done to be like, does this actually work? Is this something that, you know, can happen? I'm like, it was so confusing to just put it lightly when it is completely different, huh?

I was going to say that you had a fantastic transformation in your RRT session. I've had many, yes, I've had many when I've worked with people, and it, and still even now, I'm like, Whoa. How did that happen? How does that work so well? You know, every time somebody has agoraphobia, you're talking about the man who had agoraphobia for like 30 years.

And in one session, he's like, My agoraphobia is gone. I've tried everything and it's completely gone. So yeah, it's just incredible to me, but I just think it's, I do think like I've pondered as I've talked with other people, um, who have maybe, you know, Ben apart or joined, either, you know, one of the classes that Dr. Connelly hosts, where maybe they have been, I want to use the word triggered, but like tested in a way where they're like, Oh my gosh, this, this, Test everything I believe to be true about emotions, about, um, healing, and it kind of goes against everything I've been putting my whole work into my whole life's work into.

And so it can be really challenging to be like, Oh my gosh, all of that could be wrong, but it could be better and different than it was. So a story from one of the live trainings: actually, a woman was talking about how the first few calls she's on, she's like, This is a sham. She thought there were people in the audience paid to be there to, you know, make it look good.

And by the time she was telling us a story, she's like, I'm a total believer. I'm totally converted. Love this. Oh, good. You know, I'm doing it with my clients now. But it was so interesting for her to say that, you know, I was like, This is BS. And you know, I'm a pretty healthy skeptic. I've got some skeptics.

So, like, I watched, but I think because I saw that proof in the pudding thing over and over again, over and over again, I just was like, I'm in. Yeah, it definitely leaves a little bit of, Oh, what did I do to my past clients? Two years when it only needed to take three sessions or whatever. Well, and it's like, you know, that's where you learn, and every time it's like, okay.

Like, nothing could have been different than it was. So then you just take it forward with you. And, now, two things are different. What do you do today, Tani, to assist people? How is that? What is yours? So, because things were so different, I switched right over to RRT. Um, I am incorporating a little bit more coaching now, but I went straight over to RRT.

So, I focus mostly on helping entrepreneurs clear anxiety, fear, resistance, and that kind of stuckness that can come up when they're building a business. So they can feel calm and free to be their full authentic selves and bring those full selves and all their energy to their business. I really focus on that, but also, people come to me for all sorts of things and I just provide straight-up RRT for them as well.

So, I loved it. I worked with, and like I said, I'm just starting to bring coaching into it, where I'm doing a hybrid between business strategy and RRT. I had a second call with a new client and today she's like, I'm like, so how are things going? She's like, Things are great. I did more in the last week.

So since our first call, I have had our last in the last five months. And I was like, "Yes, that's amazing. Yeah. Getting, getting entrepreneurs. Where they're meant to be is really, and I'm really passionate about it because I think that's another thing about happiness: when we have work that is fulfilling, that we feel is valuable, and that we're contributing to making a difference in the world, that also raises the baseline.

And so most of the entrepreneurs I work with have some sort of calling or purpose inside like they want to make the world a better place. And so if I can help them build their business. They're happier and more successful, which then ripples out to their clients, their family, their friends, their community, and their whole, whole world. 

If we are happy and successful, we're happy. That radiates out to over a thousand people in the physical world, so you could say, I had a really good day. I was, I woke up in a really good mood and, um, I was really friendly and kind to my kids before they went off to school. They were better behaved than ever and that kind of led the rest of the class to be better behaved as well for whatever reason. 

And then that teacher had a better day. So then, when she went to pick up her kid from the daycare, you know, the interaction she had with the daycare provider was even better. And then, you know, like, that's kind of how it ripples out. Mm hmm. Right. And this is proven again in that book, The Happiness Advantage.

They actually did a study at Harvard around this. So, if anyone thinks it might be selfish to be happy and successful, selfless. Your best self and bring your best self to those around you. So that's kind of my motivation: it's a way of bringing more joy into their lives and, as well, spreading happiness around to everyone and just making the world a better place. Yeah, I love that. The idea of it is just going and spreading and spreading and spreading.

It's so true. And that. And I know you're focusing on happiness, but I think it could be on the other side of the coin. If we stay in, um, anxiety or depression or triggers and we're like, Oh no, I don't, I don't want to deal with this or don't want to, you know, that spreads and affects everybody around us.

So, I think when we can reach for clearing that and reaching for happiness and clearing triggers and clearing depression, all those things, it is like a double bonus because we're going from this side to that side. Right.  Well, and for anybody who's into the spiritual or energetic realm, I've heard that if you're vibrating at a level of love, you know that radiates out to 700, 000 people on an energetic level.

So I don't know that there's any research around that, which is why I stuck with the more scientific version. The thousand, yep. Right. For those people who are into that and believe in that energetic realm, I do. Um, that you know, yeah, the higher the vibe, the happier you are, the better you are, and you're making a difference for thousands and thousands of people. You know, one of my teachers talks about, you know, there are monks on this planet that just sit in their caves and meditate, just holding the vibration for the whole planet.

We've got lives, but if we can live our lives in a place of joy, in a place of fulfillment, and by making a difference for others, that's my little way of making the world a better place. I love that. Tani, is there anything that you would like to share that would make it feel complete? This episode would be complete. 

The thing that comes to mind is the thing that I just said around: you know, being clear and free,  you know, happy and focused on making a difference in this world is not selfish. Maybe not in that part. Just kind of making yourself happy, successful, clear, and free. You know, this is a great way to make the world a different, better place.

It's not selfish. It affects everyone around you. Like you said, you know, when I was depressed, I was not a nice person to be around. Like my boyfriend, do you know what I mean? And it was not intentional. I was not. Absolutely not. No. Yeah. It wasn't even necessarily conscious of it. 

But totally different than being, you know, clear and free of that and just feeling good generally. Not that I'm never, not that I don't have ups and downs; like you said, we all have ups and downs that happen in our lives. But being able to ride that roller coaster, you know, with a lot less drama than I used to have, so to speak. 

Mental and emotional drama, I'll say. You know, it has been beneficial for my family, my husband, my friends, and my whole community. Yeah, absolutely. I completely agree with that. When I was in my deepest trauma, I was not fun to be around either. It was stressful for the whole family. It was not fun for me.

It was not fun for my husband. It was not fun for my kids. It's pretty awful. So I love that. So I'm going to dive in, and I asked some questions. Questions of my guests. So what is one thing that brings you joy in your life today? Being outside in nature. Um, so bunny rabbits, I love it. New bunny owners. We have new bunny pets and they're just so cute. Just looking at them gives you a hit of dopamine. They can be naughty and they're just so cute. I'm just like, I love that. I do not, I do not have that feeling of mine for myself, but I'm not a pet person, and I love that for you. 

That's awesome. The other thing that has been bringing me a lot of joy lately is serving my clients. Like absolutely getting that shift that, that at the end where they're like, wow, like that is just so fun for me. Whereas. Try to feel that feeling. And they're like, I can't. So that is, that is incredible.

I love it. What is one book that has encouraged you or helped you or one book that you'd recommend? I know you mentioned the happiness factor. Is that what's called the happiness advantage? I don't know why I called it a factor. Okay. Happiness. There may be other ones called that. I don't know. The one that I read and know is a happiness advantage is one that I found very useful. 

Another one has a little bit more of a spiritual energetic slant, um, but it's by Michael Singer called The Untethered Soul. Okay. And tethered soul. And while I was listening, I listened to it in an audiobook. I was driving usually because I'd be driving the kids to school and back. And that's when I would listen.

And I felt enlightened for, like, four days. I was just like that, but I also really think books are funny in the sense that they come into your life at the right time. And sometimes someone will suggest something. So if you look at it and you're like, nah, then don't, don't bother, you know, like I'm always like, trust your gut check first with books because.

Someone can buy me a book. It could be the best book, but for whatever reason, I'm not interested at the time. It's just not meant for me at that time because of the way that I kind of look at things. And at some point, I might be. But I'm with books that way, and I don't recommend too many because I think they kind of come into your life.

But if you hear this and you're like, Oh, I have someone else mentioned untethered soul. As mentioned on Tethers, that's probably an indication that that book is calling to you. I do like that perspective because sometimes when you listen to a book, you just might not be ready to hear it or it might not hit you for anything.

And then, at a different time in your life, it's totally like, Oh my gosh, this book is life-changing. So they are very personal to each of us. So if the book lands or not, you know, at that moment experience, I'm trying to think how long ago it was; it was probably kind of towards where I was probably finished yoga teacher training, but not, and just maybe starting my coaching business.

But we have a family cabin, and I went, and it must've been my aunt; somebody left the book, Eat, Pray, and Love. And that first summer that I saw it there, I was not even remotely interested in it. I was just, nope, not interested. And I can't remember if it was the next summer. I think it was the very next summer, but it could have been two summers later.

The book was still there and I read it and I just loved every minute of it. And it was totally for me. You know what I mean. Like, I was just like, Oh yes, now I want it. It was just, yeah. It's interesting how that can change. 

Tani, I really appreciate your time. I appreciate you coming on here and sharing and chatting with me.

How can people connect with you, follow along with you and find you? My website is www.tanimorgan.com, and then I'm tani_morgan on Instagram and TikTok. 

Thank you. I'll link that up. And again, thank you. It's been such a joy to talk with you.

It's my pleasure. Thank you so much for the invitation and for having me today.

Website: www.tanimorgan.com

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